1st task is Valid and credit 0
2nd task is pending wingman
Remaining tasks in progress are quorum 1 !

Update: 2 Valid with credit 0

zupa, I do not know what you have done but 6 is bad for most people.
Some people are getting credit for some of their 6 tasks but a lot are not.

The problem seems to be that the tasks we receive look like they are Quorum 1 but when they get to pending you can then see that a second task was created at around the same time as the first task and they are now Quorum 2.

The ones that become Valid and get 200 credits stay as Quorum 1, those that become Quorum 2 get 0 credit.

The ones that become Valid and get 200 credits stay as Quorum 1, those that become Quorum 2 get 0 credit.

This also seems to be the reason why other applications got 0 credit on occasion.
6 just seems to do it to a much higher proportion of the tasks.

I find tasks where the system sends 2 at the same time despite the settings that only one is to send (both successfully and zero loans) :(

I find tasks where the system sends 2 at the same time despite the settings that only one is to send (both successfully and zero loans) :(

Yes, lots of of them.
It is doing it at work generation time and not as a result of receiving a completed task and thinking I'll get a second opinion on that and generate a second task to compare it with when it completes.

I haven't found any 6_Gaia zero credit work units yet but I did find 4 of the 5_Gaia work units on one of my machines.

Does not seem to matter who gets the work unit back first both get zero credit, both work units were issued either at the same time or within minutes of the first WU sent out.

Work Unit 197979
Work Unit 197577
Work Unit 197594
Work Unit 197546

Thanks
Conan

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Give it time, you'll get there !

I've seen others with a host that has processed loads and not a single 0 credit, their other hosts have the 0 credits.
I haven't been able to spot what might be a common factor, it looks like it is at the server end.

I have never seen tasks sent out as that appear as Quorum 1 then magically turn into Quorum 2 when the first WU gets to the server, which it always was because two WUs were created.
I've seen details of a second WU be hidden but they always showed as Quorum 2 to begin with.
Why some become Q2 when they are all meant to be Q1 ?
I assume the Validator has a meltdown when it tries to validate that the work for both is correct, it is and they are marked Valid, but not when it has 2 WUs instead of just the one so they get 0 credit.

These tasks seem to be created out of order. When I scroll through my queue in BOINCTasks the name (6_####_0) for the most part gradually increments as I receive them. At my local time, EST DST, 20:29 the task name went from 6_3996_0 to 6_132270_0. I received ten of these in a row with that approximate task name then they went back to names around 6_3996_0 again afterwards.

Those different tasks also have a different deadline. 11/12 for the 6_3996_0 range and 11/4 for 6_132270_0.

Just a few minutes ago the task name was 6901, jumped up to 16207 then back to 7717. The 16207 also had a shorter deadline.

All of those tasks with the out of order name/short deadline have quorum 2. For me, I am going to abort any that show that characteristic.

Are there two processes creating tasks by chance? Any setting with a 2 day deadline instead of 10?

Last night, mine started at 6_###_0 and in general sequence.
I looked at a lot of them after the first result appeared as Q2 and they all said Q1 before a result was uploaded.
I was surprised that they had started running in preference to others that had been downloaded much earlier, I was in bed so didn't get up to check machines but deadlines looked to be 11/11 for them. I hoped it was because it was a new app and that mostly my 4s and 5s would get processed in date/time order.

Resends are getting much shorter deadlines, for example this one: https://gaiaathome.eu/gaiaathome/workunit.php?wuid=257563 shows a deadline of 5 Nov 2024, 10:38:07 UTC.
The tasks will get 0 credit if ever a second WU completes successfully.

thanks for a very important tip. I know where to look now - these are "ghost tasks" that haunt the system :)

Thanks to you I know where to look for the causes of problems

Thank you very much for your observations on the changes in numbers and deadline time...

I think, was problem with assimilator ...

I fixed it.

Please, reports for me next accident with o credits ....

Good, hopefully !

Is this a fix for all existing tasks (4, 5 & 6) like the workunit I posted earlier or just for new work sent out since you think you fixed it ?

Tasks are all meant to be Quorum 1 by design, we should not see Quorum 2 on any new tasks created ?

Yes, for all Gaia 4,5,6 only for new jobs...
If will be correct, i try add credits to 0 credits tasks ( I must learn how to do it ....)

Tasks are all meant to be Quorum 1 by design, we should not see Quorum 2 on any new tasks created ?

Yes only quorum 1 is design ...

Some taks XXXX_0 comeback with error of library math or aborded by user ....
So, this task comeback to system as XXXX_1 and next XXXX_2 ......
It is can't connect with quorum

Yes, those are Resends for failed tasks, 1 WU fails and it gets 1 resend to replace it.

Have downloaded what I hope are new tasks, need to find the running 6_G task in my account's task list to get details for creation time.

PS. ( I must learn how to do it ....) <-- always the sign of a good admin :)

I think, that the time of comeback of results will be important for this problem ....

Well in 3 hours time 6_12493_0 created on 3 Nov 2024, 0:07:00 UTC should be completed.
I can't tell if it has a hidden Q2 duplicate but you think uploading the completed WU in 3 hours time will result in it getting credit.
That would happen anyway if it does not have a Q2 duplicate.
The clock is ticking...

Great news, thanks for addressing the issue.

Yes, for all Gaia 4,5,6 only for new jobs...
If will be correct, i try add credits to 0 credits tasks ( I must learn how to do it ....)

I have some of those validated but zero credits 6_Gaia tasks as well if you learn how to fix them....