Posts by mikey

1) Message boards : Number crunching : 4 gaia tasks - lots running only for seconds but validate OK, no new 4s sent (Message 736)
Posted 16 Feb 2025 by mikey
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Gaia 4 have empty inputs for new jobs, so it is finished developed jobs.
I upgrade Gaia6 generator and app (job generator have problem with contact with JPL Horision - fixed, app was problem calculate physical parameters with specyfic situations - now is testing).
I plan to waiting for last active jobs, cleaning database and disc space, upload new app and start generator for Gaia 6.


Sounds like a plan!!
2) Message boards : Number crunching : 4 gaia tasks - lots running only for seconds but validate OK, no new 4s sent (Message 734)
Posted 11 Feb 2025 by mikey
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Any updates?


Agreed the old way is better than no tasks
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Gaia_4 (Message 723)
Posted 1 Feb 2025 by mikey
Post:
+1
They seem to come in waves, maybe the feeder is full of 6 most of the time and many only want 4.
I am just able to keep working most of the time.


That makes sense thanks
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Gaia_4 (Message 720)
Posted 30 Jan 2025 by mikey
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Is there a reason why my pc's won't get Gaia 4 tasks when there are plenty of them according to the Server Status page? Some of my pc's have run dry, I already have ver 6 tasks to a milestone and am trying to get the ver 4 tasks to the same one then I will run both versions again. IF I do say it's okay to get ver 6 tasks I get more than I can handle so it's not a question of the pc not needing new tasks.

mikey
5) Message boards : Number crunching : A lot of errors (Message 690)
Posted 27 Dec 2024 by mikey
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@ADMINS ANY UPDATES ??
Still receiving same "-195 errors" with the _4 tasks.


"195" error is a generic error from BOINC, not specifically in regard to the app.

your CPU is over 15 years old and lacks modern features such as SSE4 and AVX. this probably the reason they all fail.

the Gaia_5 and Gaia_6 apps probably do not require this, which is why they work.


That could be an interesting research Project to be done here on the returns


i checked 20 of the successful resends from his most recent 20 errors. and all were newer systems with more modern instruction sets. the oldest system that a resend successfully completed was on an i5-4250U, which supports SSE4/AVX/AVX2.

there's a strong correlation here. but also very unlikely that many people are running such old hardware anyway so pretty unlikely that a resend would go to such an old system.


Very nice!!!
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Server is dry (Message 689)
Posted 27 Dec 2024 by mikey
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More work loaded for 4 & 6.


We got LOTS!!!!
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Server is dry (Message 687)
Posted 26 Dec 2024 by mikey
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That may be all the work there is for these batches (4 & 6) :)


I hope not as I need more hours in both!!
8) Message boards : Number crunching : A lot of errors (Message 682)
Posted 24 Dec 2024 by mikey
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@ADMINS ANY UPDATES ??
Still receiving same "-195 errors" with the _4 tasks.


"195" error is a generic error from BOINC, not specifically in regard to the app.

your CPU is over 15 years old and lacks modern features such as SSE4 and AVX. this probably the reason they all fail.

the Gaia_5 and Gaia_6 apps probably do not require this, which is why they work.


That could be an interesting research Project to be done here on the returns
9) Message boards : Number crunching : app_config.xml file (Message 658)
Posted 4 Dec 2024 by mikey
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Simple solution.
Run this project in a VM or multi BOINC install.
No BOINC queue management headaches.
The queue was setup for a single core machine and does not allow multiple queues assigned to groupings of cores. It's clunky and needs to be completely reworked.


I guess I could but was hoping a simple app_config would solve the whole thing!!



That server is running a custom stripped down Windows 10, with minimal services and maximal RAM available, so the subsystem fails.
I just built a minimal AntiX Linux VM and maintain it (good learning experience for low skill Linux tech like me)..
That VM has been a nice addition as it sits there waiting for a Linux only project to generate rare WU's and not a serious issue to share 16 cores of the 48 available, for a while, unless it's prime number searching. Those are a race.

Oh, some projects ignore the 0 resource anyway and might send you tasks. NFS is one. Yoyo used to.

(Nice seeing you here. We WUPropers get around!!!).


SRBase does Prime Numbers too and has tasks available! But NOT for Linux only, they have a Windows app as well.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : app_config.xml file (Message 656)
Posted 4 Dec 2024 by mikey
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Conan, this is an app_config. An app_info needs a client restart.

If you run out of Gaia 4 tasks then you'll only be running a single task. The client will see work available to run (it does not know about max_concurrent preferences) and not download any backup project at 0 priority. Just something to watch out for.


I have setup a zero resource Project that would take over so it's okay, but thanks for the warning.


It won't since the client still shows that you have work available from a non-zero project and will not download work.

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Simple solution.
Run this project in a VM or multi BOINC install.
No BOINC queue management headaches.
The queue was setup for a single core machine and does not allow multiple queues assigned to groupings of cores. It's clunky and needs to be completely reworked.


I guess I could but was hoping a simple app_config would solve the whole thing!!
11) Message boards : Number crunching : app_config.xml file (Message 655)
Posted 4 Dec 2024 by mikey
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Conan, this is an app_config. An app_info needs a client restart.

[quote]If you run out of Gaia 4 tasks then you'll only be running a single task. The client will see work available to run (it does not know about max_concurrent preferences) and not download any backup project at 0 priority. Just something to watch out for.


I have setup a zero resource Project that would take over so it's okay, but thanks for the warning.


It won't since the client still shows that you have work available from a non-zero project and will not download work. [/gquote]

It changes on a daily basis so I'm not worried about it or finding a backup project

Known applications:
4_Gaia@home[20241019.1457]
5_Gaia@home[20241023.2232]
6_Gaia@home[20241102.2234]
4_Gaia@home[20241102.1102]
4_Gaia@home[20241130.0949] ----

I'm guessing only the last one is the correct one for Gaia 4 as it matches the date on the apps.php page of 11/30. If not, then keep adding apps to the config file for any "known" apps the log shows.


Why did they name it like that, why not just 6_Gaia@home and adjust the tasks as needed that's what every other project does.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Insufficient credits (Message 638)
Posted 3 Dec 2024 by mikey
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I would also like an app selection in preferences. I am near my WUProp hours goal for Gaia 6 so will no longer want those tasks.


That's my motive as well!!
13) Message boards : Number crunching : app_config.xml file (Message 637)
Posted 3 Dec 2024 by mikey
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This is what I used to currently control how many gaia_4 and gaia_6 tasks that I want to run since there are the only two apps currently available. Edit as needed when new apps appear. It works fine on my PC.

<app_config>
<app>
<name>6_Gaia@home[20241102.2234]</name>
<max_concurrent>4</max_concurrent>
</app>
<app>
<name>4_Gaia@home[20241130.0949]</name>
<max_concurrent>4</max_concurrent>
</app>
</app_config>


Thank you VERY much!!!


It doesn't work though, it STILL comes up with the same error message
14) Message boards : Number crunching : app_config.xml file (Message 632)
Posted 3 Dec 2024 by mikey
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If you run out of Gaia 4 tasks then you'll only be running a single task. The client will see work available to run (it does not know about max_concurrent preferences) and not download any backup project at 0 priority. Just something to watch out for.


I have setup a zero resource Project that would take over so it's okay, but thanks for the warning.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : app_config.xml file (Message 631)
Posted 3 Dec 2024 by mikey
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This is what I used to currently control how many gaia_4 and gaia_6 tasks that I want to run since there are the only two apps currently available. Edit as needed when new apps appear. It works fine on my PC.

<app_config>
<app>
<name>6_Gaia@home[20241102.2234]</name>
<max_concurrent>4</max_concurrent>
</app>
<app>
<name>4_Gaia@home[20241130.0949]</name>
<max_concurrent>4</max_concurrent>
</app>
</app_config>


Thank you VERY much!!!
16) Message boards : Number crunching : app_config.xml file (Message 625)
Posted 2 Dec 2024 by mikey
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I'm trying to write an app_config.xml file so X number of 4-Gaia tasks and Y number of 6-Gaia tasks run at the same time so I can balance them out or overload one type versus another:

I started this from using a MilkyWay app_config file but it's not working:


<app_config>

<app_version>
<app_name>4_Gaia@home[20241019.1457], 4_Gaia@home[20241102.1102], 4_Gaia@home[20241130.0949]</app_name>


<avg_ncpus>15</avg_ncpus>

</app_version>

<app_version>
<app_name>6_Gaia@home[20241102.2234]</app_name>

<avg_ncpus>1</avg_ncpus>

</app_version>

<project_max_concurrent>3</project_max_concurrent>

</app_config>

I get the same error twice:
Mon 02 Dec 2024 10:48:16 AM EST | Gaia@home | Your app_config.xml file refers to an unknown application '6_Gaia@home'. Known applications: '4_Gaia@home[20241019.1457]', '5_Gaia@home[20241023.2232]', '6_Gaia@home[20241102.2234]', '4_Gaia@home[20241102.1102]', '4_Gaia@home[20241130.0949]'

I'm assuming I get the same error twice is because I have two app_version lines, can anyone help me? I have the numbers in the brackets because they are in the error message, I started without them but it didn't work then either.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Tasks crashing (Message 377)
Posted 27 Jan 2023 by mikey
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Today 1/26 I'm getting Computation Error on any task I try, so I've stopped in case it's me.
I don't know how to navigate BOINC too much, but for what it's worth I see
Output file 8_... for task 8_... absent. That might just be because there was no actual computations.
Any task only runs a few seconds before it errors.


Nope not you, it happened on several of my pc's and I too stopped getting new tasks, mine were all the version 8 tasks
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Is this Project DEAD (Message 371)
Posted 16 Jan 2023 by mikey
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New data for the calculation finally arrived
I apologise for the delay in preparing the data ....


I hope you can provide more than a few dozen tasks at a time as there are a bunch of us who would love to crunch your tasks but just can't get any.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Download error Gaia tasks (Message 336)
Posted 30 Jul 2022 by mikey
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Hello all.

I am getting an error while downloading any Gaia task. Can you please check it?
http://150.254.66.104/gaiaathome/results.php?hostid=2290

[u][b]BOINC LOG

Wed 27 Jul 2022 10:58:23 PM EEST | Gaia@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
Wed 27 Jul 2022 10:58:25 PM EEST | Gaia@home | Scheduler request completed: got 2 new tasks
Wed 27 Jul 2022 10:58:25 PM EEST | Gaia@home | Project requested delay of 7 seconds
Wed 27 Jul 2022 10:58:27 PM EEST | Gaia@home | Started download of 10_1104845_input.txt
Wed 27 Jul 2022 10:58:27 PM EEST | Gaia@home | Started download of 10_1122983_input.txt
Wed 27 Jul 2022 10:58:29 PM EEST | Gaia@home | Giving up on download of 10_1104845_input.txt: permanent HTTP error
Wed 27 Jul 2022 10:58:29 PM EEST | Gaia@home | Giving up on download of 10_1122983_input.txt: permanent HTTP error
Wed 27 Jul 2022 10:58:35 PM EEST | Gaia@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.


I think it means it's not on your end as the server can't find the file to send you, now if your end is blocking the files due to your a/v program etc then it is on your end. Right now it doesn't much matter anyway though as they don't have very many tasks to send out anyway.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : 64 task limit? (Message 320)
Posted 1 Jun 2022 by mikey
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64-thread limit still exist and rising amount of WU per core do not help at all.


Yes it still exists and as I brought some of my pc's here I hit it too and I do NOT have any pc with a cpu core with 64 threads!!


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